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Do you believe in predestined love?
Posted by Thundercatt99 • 1/09/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: freewill. religion, love, relationships, soulmates
Are people destined to be soulmates ... Or is it something we all have to work out?
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I've ofter wondered that, I heard a song once that said "I met my love before I was born" and it made me wonder the same thing. It struck me as an odd lyric coming from a punk band so it peaked my interest. I'd like to think there is predestined love, but it seems harder to believe if you wouldn't have met the person regardless of your choices.-
I was wondering to about what if a person messed up so to speak. Has a person then lost their "soulmate" chance altogether? I think (and surely hope that) one can take the pieces of your life and make something beautiful out of them. You can't ruin God's plan that easy, because it is not a fixed plan. God's more creative than that. He's hard to circumvent.
Of course knowing, willful, intentional disobedience (like your murder example) has serious consequences. God still has a will for you -- And it is not "second best" either. (How could we ever call God's will "second best"?) We might lose out on one future--and create another future for us that still brings joy and meaning.
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I remember a few cases about couples who met each other in shared dreams long before they physically met. Every time they saw the fact of having shared dreams was evidence of them being predestined as soulmates. What happens most of the time?
They break up. Seriously. The whole thing turns out to be just too weird for them and the dreams become a haunting from which they desire to escape.
Shared dreaming phenomena do occur more often than people admit. Usually they happen between relatives and lovers. Why should this happen with unrelated people? Possibly there's a resonance that takes place, possibly within commonalities of brain structure that forms a group of structural archetypes. And those aspects of the constructions attributed to the Unconscious mesh with others at times.
Shared dreaming is one of the most astonishing, compelling experiences people can have, and it defies what we know in terms of science how mind can mesh with mind, even across thousands of miles. Yet, shared dreaming can be incubated with anyone who is receptive. I've seen it done.-
Shared dreaming phenomena is a bit too much for me to believe. But I'd like to believe in predestined love, whether there's truth to it. This is so probably because I used to be into transcendental meditation and this New Age stuff. Quit a long time ago, but the readings I've had on the subject must have crept deep into my sub-conscious. -
I tell you, there was one girl in Hawaii who was in love with me. Then we encountered each other in shared dreams on the average of once a month for 2 years. She was in Hawaii while I was in California. Then she wanted to be released. We did have a locus that made frequent shared dreams possible. I removed the locus. That would reduce the number of such dreams from once a month to perhaps once in 5 years. Once started, though, the other never entirely leaves you.
We had only physically met on 3 occasions.
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nah, not big on the predestined stuff. but i imagine it's a fun thing to believe in, especially if you finally meet the predestinee.
i'd be interested to hear if anyone thought they had met their predestinee and then parted ways later, and then felt miserable because their predestiny soulmate didn't work out. or do you just chalk that up to a little pre-predestiny false alarm of some sort. -
Yes, even free will is part of predestination-
the concept of free-will
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How do you define a "soulmate"?
Some people use this definition: the romantic belief that every person soul has a single counterpart and true happiness and fulfilment can only be found by meeting and joining with that one and only one soulmate ... www.is-this-it.com/pages/GlossaryS.htm
Others use this one: Soulmate (or soul mate) is a term sometimes used to designate someone with whom one has a feeling of deep and natural affinity, friendship, love, intimacy, sexuality, spirituality and/or compatibility. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul-mate
I don't believe that I or anyone else has one and only one possible soul mate as proposed by the first definition. I believe each of us can have many soul mates who meet the criteria in the second definition I have posted above.
Lastly, are you aware of this thread on the same topic? www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/do-you-have-a-soul-mate#comment_742732-
No I was not aware of your question when I posted mine. I do find it an interesting question though! My question was intended to be focused on predestination, which has a spiritual aspect to many people, and not just the idea or even defining soulmates.
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@thundercatt99
Ahhh ... Calvinism - The religious character of predestination distinguishes it from other ideas about determinism and free will.
Those who believe in predestination, such as John Calvin, believe that before the creation God determined the fate of the universe throughout all of time and space. Predestination is a decree by God that there are certain souls that were previously appointed to salvation.
I do not ascribe to the christian belief system. I do not believe the christian construct of god exists now or has ever existed.
I have experienced the fact there are other possible soul mates (refer to the second definition I posted above) that I could have met and successfully partnered with in this life, aside from the man that I married.
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determined as a result of causality.
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It has been said, when we came into existence our heart was separated into halves, and we spend out lives looking for the other half.
So think about it. What do you think?-
@searchwithin
I don't believe it. -
@ searchingwithin I like that, I believe I have finally found the separated half of my heart. -
Hears why I like and don't like it, and I know the science friends and most people will laugh their heads off and will think I'm stupid.
Millions of years ago when that something deep in the heart of us came into existence and went on it's tour of the universe it broke into two pieces. Those two pieces although separate are always in constant contact with each other, it is two pillars of the same being. For those two beings to meet and have some sort of encounter in person would almost be unbearable because those few million years of being apart have created a yearning that is intolerable. The processing required by two poles of one being would be virtually impossible for the average human being to survive, ... in so many million years there is a lot of stuff to be sorted. Only someone who was very developed Spiritually would be able to deal with such an encounter. I'm confident we can often confuse people that we love dearly as soulmates, when they aren't at all, they are just compatible.
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This question has so many offshoots that head off into Free Will, No Free Will, God, No God.
I'm confident there is a soulmate, but it's not what people generally think. Most people looking for their soulmate seem to jump from one solulmate to another.-
I agree acousticguitarist. Or at least, what they would like to say is their soul-mate.
People have the tendency to use the word "love" and "friend", way too lightly.
It takes more than having a conversation with me, to be classified as a friend. So many people jump into classifying a so called romantic relationship as a "relationship" long before there is one. Or even say "I love you" when in fact, love consists of soooo much more than how they are using it.
Two words that are flashed around waaay tooo readily. -
i love all my friends
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So do I. My friendships are very longstanding. Most have endured between 2 and 3 decades. Without doubt I love my friends.
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got any cute friends?
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Yes, as a matter of fact I do. And none of them are fettered by the belief that they have been predestined to have one and only one true love in this life or in any other lives.
Ideas, theories and beliefs are not necessarily truths.
A belief is not an idea held by the mind; it is an idea that holds the mind.
We don’t see things as they are; we see things as we are (ie. as we perceive them to be).
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