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Obama - The New President
Posted by SolReka • 11/04/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: obama, President
Well it looks like a one horse race, currently it's 103-34 to Obama.
Unless of course there's another election rigging similar to the 2004 elections ref Bush & Diebold and ES&S.
Anyway, what are your thoughts about Obama. Do you thing he'll make for some positive changes; in particular the global economy and the war in Iraq.
Or is he just another puppet on a string!
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Funny--I'm just listening to Obama's chief strategist saying, "one big supersitition is that we don't declare victory too early." and "We've waited two years--we can wait a couple of more hours to see the results"-
I'm not from US but I like Obama for President..
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Hoping that the better man wins, who btw is Obama! -
word up!, its 1:30AM here, staying up to hopefully watch the Obama acceptance speech, great, great ,great, great, great, great, great ,great, great, great, great, great ,great, great, great, great, great ,great, great, great, great, great ,great, great, great, great, great ,great, great, great! -
...waiting 'til the end for the results... -
It could well end up a blowout, but as far as the electoral lead at the moment this has a lot to do with the states that are reporting with enough to be called. That is, they are for the most part Dem strong holds.
As to the "election rigging" of 2004, that is a tired claim. There was no presidential election stealing in 200 or 2004.
Not that it wasn't tried.... by the Left.
Obama IS a socialist, should he win (which I expect he will) then no, positive change will not take place. A move towards socialism is NOT positive.-
this comment has been edited by lola!
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Right wing BS...as usual.
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@rfburnhertz, here is an interesting post I read regarding the how the electoral process works.
- 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S.
- There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the US voting machine industry.
- The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.
- The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was “committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year.”
- 35% of ES&S is owned by Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, who became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.
- Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, a long-time friend of the Bush family, was caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.
- Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush’s vice- presidential candidates.
- ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the US and counts almost 60% of all US votes.
- Diebold’s new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.
- Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.
- Diebold is based in Ohio.
- Diebold employs 5 convicted felons as developers. These are the people who write the voting machine computer code.
- Diebold’s Senior Vice-President, Jeff Dean, was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree.
- Diebold Senior Vice-President Jeff Dean was convicted of planting back doors in his software and using a “high degree of sophistication” to evade detection over a period of 2 years.
- None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio.
- California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold’s claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it!
- 30% of all US votes are carried out on unverifiable touch screen voting machines with no paper trail. 18. Bush’s Help America Vote Act of 2002 has as its goal to replace all machines with the new electronic touch screen systems with no paper trail.
- All — not some — but all the voting machine errors detected and reported went in favour of Bush or Republican candidates.
- Major statistical voting oddities (odds on the order of 250 million to 1!) — again always favouring Bush — have been mathematically demonstrated by experts.
Source: www.guerrillanews.com
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I am just posted and would love to hear from both Obama and McCain supporters on how they are going to feel about the other guy winning.
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Socialist? And social security isn't a form of socialism?
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It's very early, yet folks. -
Alright if there are any Minnesotans on here who care to explain their voting system I would appreciate someone explaining why the state is called for Obama with the numbers CNN is showing.
www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/-
I'm not from Minnesota, but I suspect that it's because the reporting precincts thus far are rural areas which are predicted to go more Republican, whereas the returns from the more urban (and Democratic-leaning) areas have not yet been reported.
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The numbers are dead even now, as opposed to Obama wining with only 20% of the vote counted. *shrug*
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But the last I saw, Minneapolis/St. Paul area hadn't reported, and that's a population-dense urban area.
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I am now seeing 60% Obama there so *shrug some more* I am more concerned with Virginia and North Carolina at the moment.
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@arilestariono
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SolReka, does that mean that you think things are going well now?
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good luck America in your bright new dawn of opportunity and hope!
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Well Obama now has a 200 electorial vote lead to McCain's 90., Me a Hillary Clinton supporter, just couldn't do it and vote for McCain/Palin
Congrats to our NEW President Barack Obama
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yay!, good for you Hillary supporter!,
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lol Um Palin is a train wreck, sorry, I had to vote Obama
McCain now 129
Obama now 207
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Alaska is still voting.. our polls don't close till 8 and it is almost 6 now!
Almost like watching a football game after everyone in the other states have seen it.
Wait... Wait... Don't tell me the score yet!
fingers in my ears "la la la la la la"
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Come on guys, you know McCain will win, he's pro-war.
Hope I haven't stirred the hornets nest here :-)
Anyways, I find the whole political regime quite farcical. I'm all for meritocracy.
On that bombshell, I bid you a good night. Bed beckons. -
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oh man, i need another coffee!, go on Obama my son! -
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BARACK PBAMA os the NEW President of the UNITED STATES!!! OMG! he did it!
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Yes, and I'm sooooo glad he took Virginia...Virginia was ALL BLUE tonight! And may it forever remain so! -
Watch it happen on the map www.npr.org/news/specials/election2008/2008-election-map.html#/president?vi...
Obama wins in Ohio, New Mexico, Iowa, Virginia, Florida set the stage for historic night. Democrats tighten grip on Senate, House.Democratic candidate Barack Obama has captured California, and with it the presidency, according to NPR's projections. -
wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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OBAMA ELECTED PRESIDENT
All the networks have called the election for Barack Obama. You can call him President-elect. Congrats.
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Mccain does farewell speech - bye bye!
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After months of smearing Obama McCain made a gracious exit speech.
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Solreka,
you presented a lot of circumstantial evidence which proves nothing.
There was fraud through ACORN and has been through, this is fact.
Obama (by his campaigns own admission, and then denial, and then admission...) took a literal page from the Kerry playbook (which Kerry put to use in Ohio last election, also by his campaigns own admission).
The exact phrasing escapes me at the moment, essential it said, 'where the race is close, look for evidence of voter fraud and if there isn't any voter fraud, claim voter fraud anyway.'
As far as Obama winning, not what I wanted by any stretch, but he will be my President. Where I can praise him during his presidency I will, where I need to speak against him I will.
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One nice thing about this election, it ended a heck of a lot earlier than the last two. Nice that the winner was clear and obvious.
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Yes, and now I hope we can all come together and make this work.
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i know his speech was amazing. and so was mccains.. both where amazing.. i was watching the entire thing from like. 6 30 until it was all over.. all the speeches the counting of the electrial votes. the outcome.. everything and im very happy with this election. very happy for obama
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