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Taliban calls Obama a House Negro...
Posted by gerryPlanetEarth • 11/19/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
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Al-Qaeda's second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, has used a racial slur to demean President-elect Barack Obama implying he does the bidding of whites.
Zawahiri said in an audio message posted on militant websites that Mr Obama was “the direct opposite of honourable black Americans” such as Malcolm X.
Ayman al-Zawahiri also referred to Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice as house negros...He scolded Mr Obama for “choosing to be an enemy of Islam and Muslims”, saying that the Muslim “nation had bitterly received” the President-elect’s pledge of support to Israel.
He also taunted Mr Obama’s plans to send more troops to Afghanistan...
“What you have announced before ... that you will withdraw troops from Iraq [and send them] to Afghanistan is a policy that is doomed to failure."
“If you still want to be stubborn about America’s failure in Afghanistan, then remember the fate of Bush and Pervez Musharraf, and the fate of the Soviets and British before them."
Generally speaking what are your views on the recent words of Ayman al-Zawahiri ?
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Not surprising in the least. Hateful, but not surprising.
Well, at least we can put those claims of terrorist ties to bed
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[ Zawahiri said in an audio message posted on militant websites that Mr Obama was “the direct opposite of honourable black Americans” ]
Says a direct opposite of hono(u)rable human beings of any color and nationality.
[ He scolded Mr Obama for “choosing to be an enemy of Islam and Muslims” ]
Yeah, sure, as opposed to choosing to be a heartless enemy of human life, like he and everyone in Al-Qaeda is.
The world does best by ignoring such statements by anyone from any terrorist organization. Like Anok says, it's not surprising in the least.-
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Really? Because if they praised the result of the election, then I'd be surprised.
I'm pretty sure that whatever the outcome of the U.S. election might have been, they would've had something bad to say, anyway. They're funny like that. -
@Friday13
What do you think the Taliban would have said about McCain and Palin if the Republicans had won ? -
I don't know. I don't know what they think about those former candidates, but I doubt it'd be something positive.
What do you think they'd have said? -
@Friday13
If McCain had won perhaps the Taliban would have been recommending the beheading of Mrs. McCain for her recent infidelity with the used car salesman...
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This is just part of the Al-Qaeda plot to make us think Obama is not really a Super Secret Terror Muslim who is also Stalin. We're on to you al-Zawahiri! -
How about a link to a credible source?-
mark - here you go: www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/19/al-qaeda-no-2-calls-obama_n_144827.html -
@markstoneman
"America, the criminal, trespassing crusader, continues to be the same as ever, so we must continue to harm it, in order for it to come to its senses," al-Zawahri said.
english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2008/11/2008111914829978899.html
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Some interesting observations on this gaffe here: counterterrorismblog.org/2008/11/dr_ayman_alzawahiri_and_the_ri.php
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Very informative article, Mark. Thanks for sharing.
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His comments were away to try to divide President-Elect Obama from the American People. Calling him what he did is a way dig into old wounds.-
@ 210betty
You bring up a good point...What is the purpose behind these organized media broadcasts that seem to be thoughtfully calculated ?
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Why is anyone giving any thought at all to the words of a mad man?-
Because last time we ignored them they blew up the world trade center? -
davidckaplan, as easy and nice it would be to never hear from al-Qaida, Hezbollah, and Hamas ever again, we cannot. We must listen to what they are saying because of exactly csiunatic's point. When we did brush off their comments that they will attack the United States we did not believe them and 9/11 happened. Ignoring them again will most likely result in a similar action. The United States and Europe can no longer scoff at what they say and dismiss it as a bunch of crazies who will never amount to anything. People need to be aware of what they are saying and that these people are dead serious and vehemently believe in their own rhetoric. The same goes for Iran. If we put our head back in the sand we have learned nothing. The best way to fight terrorism is to stay on the offensive and to not give in to their demands.
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Be very careful. So many of you say we need to ignore these words. Wrong wrong wrong. We need to rebut them. Very robustly. The Taleban have a sophisticated media machine, which at the moment is going unchallenged. They are issuing up to ten press releases every day directly to journalists. More than NATO, more than the Gov. of Afghanistan. Whats the best the US can do? Stick a spokesperson in the Afghan Government Media Centre so the voice of the Afghan Government is barely heard. Incredible.
public-diplomacy.blogspot.com/2008/08/arm-yourself-with-books.html
Rebut rebut rebut. But ignore at your peril.
Comments about Obama largely predicted. And he has a point about Russian and British failure. I would like to know exactly WHAT the plan is for Afghanistan. Is it "surge" again? This ain't Iraq my friends - you will be hard pushed to surge on the FATA region.-
Ms. Rice got the heat for being a woman visiting some countries. Who actually expected those that have no love for the US not to poke the obvious "sore spot" in this?
If they had offered a statement about their ideas for US national policy, without calling in the race card, do you think that there would be such a media coverage of their demands as "house negroe" caused.
These people are dangerous, but they are not stupid, and they obviously know exactly how to get a press release picked up by outlets that would otherwise use it as TP.
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@Nomadic
No matter how clever a media campaign the taliban and associate terrorists orchestrate at the end of day it is their actions that doom them to failure...
Spraying acid on the faces of schoolgirls, murdering civilians in schools, churches,shopping malls and public transportation is not exactly the type of heroism that inspires people to your cause...
If the Taliban etc. had one iota of interest in the plight of their people and humanity they would have asked the new president Obama for a sitdown for peace and economic negotiations...
The Taliban, Al Queda and other Middle East terrorists are well paid thugs funded by special interest groups and possibly weapons' manufacturers to maintain and prolong the status-quo in the Middle East etc.
If not for the actions of these terrorist thugs Palestine would have been already a nation many years ago...
I am deeply disappointed that both Obama and the terrorists seem to want to escalate the conflict in Afghanistan rather than explore a possible peaceful resolution... -
gerryplanetearth- unfortunately though, there are always going to be apologists for terrorists who always want to blame someone other than the terrorists for whatever the screwed up reason. It is these apologists who will perpetuate the conflict even more than the terrorists themselves. The terrorists though also have absolutely no interest in sitting down with anyone to negotiate anything. If terrorists wanted to talk legitimately, we would not have to be dealing with Hamas, Hezbollah, or al-Qaida.
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Does it ever surprise anyone about the timing of these announcement from Al-Qaeda?
Do they always seem sooooooooo well placed and perfect? I mean what else would you expect them to say.
Also how do we get a picture and a voice recognition all the time but yet we can't seem to catch them.
I mean really, these statements seem strait out of a movie.
I am to smart to think that it is a conspiracy theory, or maybe I am to dumb and easily led to not realize what is a conspiracy theory.-
I understand all that....... just simple questions from a simple mind
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like nomadi said, both the Taliban and Al-quaeda have a lot of people working on PR, and they have more or less unlimited access to Al Jazeera.
They don't need inside help to figure out the timing.
They also release pictures themselves on their leaders all the time.
And all you need is a single voice print that can be determined to belong to a person. Most of the time, they use a video tape of the person in question and make the pattern recognition from it.
There is software that does this you can DL for free... Voice ident for your password screens for instance.
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They don't need Jazeera anymore. Some journalists are lazy and with no other material they will use Taliban. When I was in Kabul recently the Taliban spokesman was being aired on radio Liberty (US funded).
And Taliban and AQ are very different creatures.
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Al Quaeda is Saudi based. The Saudis are Wahhabis and have always had a problems with Turkish muslims and the North African muslims. They are the traditional enemies of moors and the Ottomans. It is prejudice rearing its head. The Wahhabis don't recognize the main muslim sects. This is not surprising.-
wehireu, the Wahhabi sect is the enemy of all other branches of Islam for a reason. They believe that they carry the true message of Islam, the most pure message. The Wahhabi sect believes evertything in the Koran down to the very last sentense. They believe that all the other sects are apostates that must be killed (a common theme in Islam today).
Al-Qaida is not directly Saudi based. It happened to be formed by a Saudi, but is not in a direct fashion associated with the royal family. The royal family does build madrassas that spread the Wahhabi sect and Islamic extremists do prey on the young people at attend these madrassas. So there is more of an indirect link than a direct one. -
Interested on where you get your information on Madrassas spreading Wahhabi ideology. My information says different. Which countries Madrassas do you speak of?
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Nomadic- It is the madrassas built and funded by the al-Saud's that spread the Wahhabi sect.
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Well. I work in this field and some good friends would consider themselves experts......the Madrassas in which country in particular, Pakistan?
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I actually wrote about this today:
griperblade.blogspot.com/2008/11/terrorist-candidate.html
Turns out that the guy all the crazy people said was a terrorist has become a big problem for al Qaeda. -
Does anybody feel the Taliban or Al-Qaida played a role in the recent terrorist attack on India ?
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gerryPlanetEarth- I think it is too soon to tell if al-Qaida played a direct or indirect or no role in the Mumbai attacks. Although given that the terrorists specifically targeted Americans, Israelis, and Brits it could seem that way since this is who al-Qaida targets the most. It will take some time before we know for sure though.
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